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But as soon as you get that car into deep stuff, it will climb up on top of the snow, lifting the tires off of the ground, and that's where you'll sit until the spring thaw. Drive a Z3. 997 Carrera 2S..the choice of 2 out of 3 Top Gear presenters. Many people vote for BMW's models, involving Z3. Never owned an NB. There's a guy in our local race group who runs a Z3 M Coupe. But anything requiring more than basic skills would take me more time than I have. You can have a choice of either an automatic transmission or a manual in both the Mazda Miata or BMW Z3, but if you choose the two-pedal option in the BMW, no one will judge you. TrueDelta is not affiliated with any car manufacturer or their trademarks. The Miata is tough in the snow due to its extremely low ground clearance. Signed on as iRacing Executive Director. The Mazda Miata is a roadster. I wouldn't even bother with a 4cyl Z3 unless your only concern is looks. I have read about how semi-trailing arms aren't as good as double a-arms, and that's also partly why C5 Corvettes handle better than C4s. the plus to this, if the rear steps out, you are the first to know. © 2020 Motorsport Marketing. I wouldn't say a 2.8 is "fast" though. The BMW Z4 will cost more in transportation costs than the Mazda MX-5 Miata. Wind noise was much lower. See stats for powertrain and chassis repairs. Better suspension. I'd say it provides Miata-like acceleration... definitely adequate and if you can drive it well and use the power, you can outrun some people. The MX-5 doesn't win in terms of power, but the Mazda still shipped a lot of units. S52 to skip out on all the extra S54 maintenance and cost, cams away from equal power. This car does not get driven in the winter because of road salt. The Mazda MX-5 Miata endures because it fills a need for simple and affordable driving enjoyment. Fun, as manual a driver does not feel the thrill because of how much weight the car is. Ranked 2006 Volkswagen Beetle 2.5L Convertible worse. 2016 - 2018 Mazda MX-5 Miata: good reliability in TrueDelta's member survey, 2006 - 2015 Mazda MX-5 Miata: excellent reliability in TrueDelta's member survey, See stats for powertrain and chassis repairs, See TSBs for the 2006 2021 Mazda MX-5 Miata, Powertrain and Chassis Repair Frequencies, Mazda MX-5 Miata Reliability And Durability: Pros, A major reason Miatas hold their value is that they've proven to be, The new Mazda MX-5 Miata is, well, new, so TrueDelta has no reliability data on it. BMW Z3 is and is 4025 mm long, 1740 mm wide, and 1279 mm in height. It was my daily driver and I put 70,000 miles on it in a few years of ownership. You may find yourself on this website because you enjoy motoring and sometimes that motoring may require an open top vehicle. Some may say this motor lacks power. I think that the 4 cylinder Z3 will be disappointing so I'll stick to the 6 cylinder concept. 1.9 Z3 does not have the maintenance issues the 6 cylinder cars do. Upgrading to an LSD is cheaper on the Z3 because there are soooo many options from various BMW models. Overheating Is Not Only Annoying, It Can Cause Some Serious Damage, Video: Someone Is Actually Using the Jeep Trackhawk on the Track, Go Faster: Laguna Seca, Sebring, VIR, Road Atlanta, Mosport, Road America, Mid-Ohio and Watkins Glen. you practically sit on the rear suspension, so when the nose turns in, you find yourself 'waiting' that extra split second to feel any change in direction. © 2004 - 2020 TrueDelta. Ranked 2013 Ford Mustang GT Premium Convertible RWD worse. Anyone owned both cars, or can draw a good comparison between them? The Mazda MX-5 Miata endures because it fills a need for simple and affordable driving enjoyment. The 6cyl engines are nice. (Ie, Z3 2.8 0-60 in 6.2 seconds, 1990 Miata 0-60 in 9.4 seconds) It felt more like a grand touring car than a Miata, as in more "grown up" and more of a "real car." I understand it's actually a good driver in the snow IF a) you have good snows (I hear Blizzaks are the best on that car) on all four corners, and b) you can keep them on the ground. Also, the Mazda Miata has a four-cylinder engine for simplicity and lightness. That is hogwash, the Mazda Miata is meant to be a classic roadster in the same vein as those old British drop tops. I have owned both cars: 1994 Miata and a 2.5 liter Z3. I still love Miatas but I am very happy with this choice. I don't have the skill set, nor the time, to do major upkeep. The 4-cylinder is worthless. Tom is a contributing writer for Jalopnik and runs AutomatchConsulting.com. Other than that, no real issues. Since most BMW brake calipers are direct swap etc. I think BMW addressed a lot of those issues with the Z4 but by then it was way expensive, bigger and heavier. $6k for a 10-year-old 1.9 Z3 vs a much newer Miata just to get a roundel on the hood? The Mazda Miata, however, lacks a few things that are included in BMW. Maintenance is a factor for me. It was a fantastic car. Z3 is still good as an occasional autocrosser where the main purpose is street driving. That plus the warranty and I have no worries. A Mazda Miata is a good and fine car, but it is not a BMW Z3 and thus is the inferior choice. If you're 6'4" or taller, you would probably have to make modifications to fit. The Miata otherwise handles much better than the BMW and has much less chassis flex. I'm in the process of determining the fate of my fleet as we prepare to move. He's actually been talking about selling it for a Miata. It also seemed to "flop" from side to side in fast transitions, but that could have been the particular example I drove. The Miata has better suspension and feels like it's having more fun, but it's just not as fast, the brakes aren't as good, and it's not as refined as the BMW. How are you going to emulate that experience without constant wrenching? I have to admit a Z3 has always interested me and 1.9 gets decent gas mileage on regular (according to the EPA site). Knock on wood - the Miata has proven totally reliable so far. I've had several NA, and one NC, and love them. He saves people money and takes the hassle out of buying or leasing a car. It makes an NA feel very sparse. Show details. My mind has always been set on another Miata. I just remembered about that test drive just now. how about a mazdaspeed miata. The 1.6 in the Miata is probably also best described at "barely adequate" too, so that's no worry. power is all subjective of the engine. The top is thicker than a Miata top so it is a lot quieter inside with the top up. Brand new, it starts at $31,900 – about $3,000 less than a three-year-old BMW Z4 sDrive 28i. they ranged from a barely adequate 1.9 up to an all singing all dancing aluminum 3.0, The Weirdest part of the z3 is the driving position. Given the feel of a BMW six, I can't see any reason to look at the 1.9. The Z3 has the semi-trailing arm rear suspension out of the E30, which most people would consider inferior to the Miata's double A-arms. While the Miata LSDs are around $7-900 in my area. The Miata cruises nicely at eighty but isn't as solid. I'm thinking of getting a used Z3 for my wife as a 'fun car', and wonder of those who own Z3's, how many have driven all the engine varieties (1.8 - 2.8, basically, since I'm going used) and what differences there are (noticeably). anti-roll bar, Independent. Only successfully completed repairs are currently included in the analysis. In reply to codrus: I first test drove a NB Miata about 2 or 3 years ago with just some aftermarket wheels around my neighborhood. But that gets away from some of what makes a Miata fun. So I'm looking for something that's easy to work on...or cheap to have someone else do if need be. But I wouldn't be able to get one for a toy for a while because the maintenance is much more than a Miata, and during the cold seasons when Miatas are sold for cheap, I see Z3's listed for thousands more. Surprisingly, both owners had Toyo Proxes R1R tires on them. The Miata has better suspension and feels like it's having more fun, but it's just not as fast, the brakes aren't as good, and it's not as refined as the BMW. My weekend toy is the topic of this one. The interior is understandibly similar. In fact, if I didn't have the Viper now, I'd be looking for an S54 M Roadster. Also have concerns about their build quality, but don't know. I have driven both M Roadsters (the S52 and the S54) of the Z3, the 1.9 I4 version, and the 2.5 liter version. Lastly and most important, the BMW Z3 is available in non-convertible form, for those of us who do not care for things like wind and noise, but prefer words like shooting brake and like to motor with an air of practicality. Had a few NA's, now have a 3.0 Z3. Cheaper maintenance. You should be ok if you stick to the plowed roads, but it's certainly something you're going to have to think about in Buffalo. But between the work it needs (which I'd have to pay to have done), the cost of shipping it to ATL and the GA tax I'd have to pay to register it, it may make sense to sell it and replace when I get there.

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