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When I can afford it, i’d probably get an SBR stamp and do a full rifle, but until then the pistol works well for me. It didn’t perform well against the automatic fire of the AK in Vietnam, and it was replaced by the fully automatic AR-15, known now as the M16, in the mid ‘60s. The problem is this…there really is a strong case for the PDW and its compactness and maneuverability. With the MP5 variant you just pull a pin and put on a stock. For me, then, these are useless and wasteful range toys. So you hang out with people who can’t shoot. In a down market, the product has to drive demand not just the Democrat in charge of the pipe line…, My M92 has been a real treat now for more than a year. Why? -Pistol or intermediate calibers (9mm, 5.56, 7.62×39, 300BLK most commonly) I have a couple of 7.62mm x 39mm rifles, and I enjoy them, but the recoil and blast out of a 16″ barrel is not insubstantial compared to 5.56 NATO or .300 AAC – I just think that this caliber is a bit much in any weapon shorter than 16 inches for most shooters, and that is probably contributing to the slack sales more than anything – and the expense. CMMG .22 conversion kit. So its basically in no-way a comparison to an AR/AK pistol shooting a rifle round out of a 8-10″ barrel? The high end range toy market is. Is there any kind of 5.56 that’s good from a 7.5″ barrel? I prefer to stick with the original concepts — my ARs are gas impingement and fire .223 Rem./5.56 NATO. RAISE TAXES again! Then you clearly lack imagination. I’m real close to buying an MCX pistol in .300 BLK. Here's the key difference between the two: The AR-15's barrel is attached to the gas block, fitting into it like a bushing and then secured in place by a barrel nut. -No NFA PW or expense or concern about state borders For the AK’s design and purpose, this was deemed good enough. rlewpolar, Oct 9, 2020 at 11:23 AM. No? I’d rather have an SBR and the pistols that I’ve seen to make into an SBR are overpriced IMHO. This is much more efficient than cycling the charging handle — with the AK the charging handle is used for everything. The AK platform...is actually quite misunderstood in this regard. It’s a way to show the emperor has no clothes. There’s something about “pursuit of happiness” in our nation’s founding documents, IIRC. This is a soft shell pistol case that is designed to handle not just your AR-15 pistol but also other semi-automatic pistols or rifles that you might have. The intermediate cartridge, the German Sturmgewher, was smaller and fired from a shorter, lightweight platform and was controllable during full-auto fire. The Comblock ammo is “dirty” – I have to clean the x39 upper after about 600 rounds. These and more are all solutions created in response to laws. You run into the exact same legal questions with the Ruger Charger & 10/22 platform, you’re often better off starting from a Charger receiver although they are both the same…except the wording on the side, and how it was classified as a pistol or rifle when purchased new. , it imparts a “whump whump” of happiness to all. Check out CNC Warrior. The only reason anyone in California builds/buys one is that we can’t have SBRs. That is the reality of the current consumer environment. For example, an Extar 556 is 3lbs unloaded, easily equipped with a reddot and an AFG. No one knows for sure and probably won’t until long after next Tuesday. He was all over Europe. Wait, the zombie craze is over? The Ak pistol market isn’t dying. The non-SBR friendly state issue is the big one for a lot of people…in general, just so many less regulations with a AR Pistol vs a SBR. That’s really the length they should be. During the first half of WWII, the Germans were almost unstoppable. They could easily spot weld a collar over a threaded gas block like the C92 and M85 AK pistols. It is a self inflicted wound, and more companies need to understand the US firearms market (which is probably 90% of the global private arms market) can only sustain a certain level of costs when we are so economically stressed and our workers no longer have jobs because some people think taxing us into poverty and requiring participation in their panacea health care program *which is dead, dead, dead, is not a recipe for success. Bring it on, Bond baby. (1) The buyer really wants a short-barreled rifle (SBR). In Michigan, if a firearm has an OAL <26" it's a pistol, and falls under the purview of the Concealed Pistol Licenses issued by the state. DDM4 MK18 10.3" 5.56 Pistol. Makes NO sense. Every so often these top brass guys come out of the woodwork when they smell money in the air, and the first thing out of their mouths is complaining about and replacing the current issue battle rifle… but I digress from this subject – sorry. The AK is easy to manufacture and cheap to produce. My $200 Hi Point carbine does all that and has a stock. Big-Bore Lever-Actions: Steel Henry .45-70 Is Golden, Braced 9mm Pistols: CZ Scorpion EVO 3 S1 Review. an AK pistol set up properly would make a very effective car gun or get home bag piece. Im a big fan of AKs and the 7.62×39 round, so this was a no-brainer for me. The AR is more complicated than the AK, but its ergonomics are much better. That’s really it: if someone wants a rifle, they shop for a rifle. You can’t make an effective subsonic 5.56. Considering the ballistics you still achieve, yet the overall decreased dimension of the platform, SBRs and pistol brace fake-SBRs offer greater maneuverability out in the wild, or in hallways if that’s your intended purpose. Both the AK and the AR are reliable, easy to shoot and fun, and they perform exactly as designed. The SAM7K however is utilized by Bulgarian special forces in some form or another. This does not apply to the pistol version OR the silencer. That Arsenal AK pistol is a heavy forged beast with a friggin fake krink style booster that screws half way down the barrel – and I think it was priced over $1500. So long as you don't have to do anything with the barrel of course. I’ve been shooting the Gorilla Silverback 205’s, for example. Keep your AR “wet” and it will run reliably. Caribou Media Group earns a commission from qualifying purchases. Since then, it’s definitely earned the title of “America’s Rifle,” and it’s the longest serving standard-issue rifle of America’s armed forces. An Olympic OA-93 in .300 BLK would be the greatest thing ever. A real PDW would be automatic making 9mm more than enough for the close-in PDW. It’s essential pushing buttons the same way Cody Wilson does with the printed gun thing. Welcome to party, comrade. AKs didn’t really become popular and available in the United States until the 1990s. Exactly, just like pickup trucks for getting groceries. Or are people running 10″ or smaller in the sandbox? It’s funny how the market has overturned in the AK vs AR category, since the AK has increased in price and the AR has dropped significantly. The caliber is very misunderstood and underappreciated. One other problem is the ammo – you get 50 rounds per box, but when people see the price tag they are thinking about pistol ammo and are suddenly not that enthused. But no, the “pistol” style PDW is still relevant. Debating on whether the AR or the AK is “better” is like arguing whether a Ford Mustang is superior to a John Deere tractor. They released a factory SBRed version as a limited edition before, and will likely do so again in the near future if they drop that along with the SAM7K pistol. -20-30rd capacity The muzzle blast and the blast wave hit me pretty hard even though i was wearing Impact hearing protection rated at 22 dbr. 7.5″ barrel provides better ballistics with 9mm than a 4 inch barrel, duh. It has proven very reliable, and is accurate at the distances relevant to each type of ammunition. Exactly why we switched off the old m16 20″ barrels in Iraq when we got into the cities. I’d recommend it to anyone, and am strongly considering adding another to my stable. However, .223/5.56mm, .300 Blackout, and 7.62x39mm lose too much energy at longer range, which means that these rifles aren't very good for hunting in about half of the continental US. The Russian gun operates with a long-stroke piston. MY only reasons for wanting one as a PDW is ergonomics. but they are built to run in a wide range of conditions. I moved a few bays away. Joined: Jul 19, 2004 Location: Oregon. lol. AR vs AK for hunting gets a bit complicated. I recommend at least one of each! We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. When they followed NATO’s lead and updated to a squirrel cartridge(the Soviets did it much better) they kept the 16in barrel. There are two possible reasons for this. Call for Availability. Well a friend of mine has both. Can’t carry a loaded rifle either openly or concealed in a car/truck, but a concealed pistol in rifle caliber is legal with CCH permit, at least in some (most?)

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