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Many products featured on this site were editorially chosen. There are those hunts where a cartridge larger than your favorite deer rifle is required, especially in the higher latitudes of North America. FN Awarded U.S. Army Contract for the M249 SAW, Springfield Gets Into Hunting Bolt Guns with New Model 2020 Line. A .338 Federal is a necked up .308 Winchester, bullet weights range from 180 gr to 210 gr. None of which surprises Mike Holm, ammunition product line manager for Federal Premium Ammunition, which developed the hard-hitting round in conjunction with Sako. I mean, when i need to drop a Moose, I'll grab the 375 or the 416 long before I'll take the 338. It was designed to use 235-, 270- and 300-grain bullets, making it perfectly suitable for game of all shapes and sizes. Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1. Which of these two has the advantage, and would make the better choice? The 300-grain soft points and solids, driven to a muzzle velocity of 2530 fps, offer over 4,000 ft.-lbs. the other any range (Win.). Though Britain classified the cartridge as a medium bore, the .375 H&H soon showed its abilities on all game around the globe. Did Dirty Harry Use .44 Specials in his Model 29?! I'd think those would be a little tough to work well at .338 federal velocities, especially out at the longer distances. It was the .334 OKH, based on the belted H&H design, that had a direct influence on the .338 Winchester Magnum. Bullet weights of 200-, 250- and 300-grains were initially offered for the .338 Win. Bullet weights of 200-, 250- and 300-grains were initially offered for the .338 Win. With its gentle, sloping shoulder and belt of brass at the base of the cartridge used for proper headspacing, the three-seven-five feeds like a dream from a box magazine bolt-action rifle. Two different classes of cartridge even though they are the same bore diameter. Might as well toss it into the decision. Savage Arms is further fueling this rising tide by chambering six of its most popular rifles to fire the high-performance yet low-recoil cartridge. I would go with the .300 Win Mag or .338 Win Mag. “The .338 Federal may be the perfect big-game cartridge,” he said. TBT loads are within 0.3 inch of drop with 200-yard zeroes. 20" barrel is to short for the 338 win mag. “It fits in short-action, lightweight rifles and delivers the range and terminal energy to take down any North American big-game animal.” Mag. vs. .300 WSM• .223 Remington vs. .22-250 Remington, E-mail your comments/questions about this site to: EmediaHunter@nrahq.org, For questions/comments about American Hunter magazine, please e-mail:Publications@nrahq.org, You can contact the NRA via phone at: NRA Member Programs1-800-672-3888, To advertise on American Hunter, visit nramediakit.com for more information. Note that passwords are case-sensitive. What would yall prefer. Friday, July 6, 2018. A .338 Federal is a necked up .308 Winchester, bullet weights range from 180 gr to 210 gr. The lighter 200- and 225-grain bullets—especially the premium designs—will handle elk, moose and bear, and the light bullets between 175 and 185 grains make a good deer bullet, especially at longer ranges. While i know both those will do well for North American big game. Velocity Comparison: Energy Comparison: Mar 18, 2010 #7 M. McStern Member. Go to the Federal ammo website to check out ballistics between the two. All rights reserved. 338 Win Mag...little more umph and easier to find Ammo. Take a peek below at the velocity and energy charts. Joined Mar 17, 2010 Plus, the .338 Federal zips along at 2,064 feet per second at 300 yards, virtually tailgating the magnum cartridge, which clocks a cruising speed of 2,180. There are a ton of .338 bullets available for handloaders, but a big percentage of them are designed to be driven at .338 win mag velocities. Springfield Armory Introduces XD-M Elite 3.8″ Compact. The .338 Federal, however, boasts an additional 100 ft.-lbs. The 338 win mag has some of the best Ballistics out there. What is the difference? (what do you want to shoot with it?). The federal is cheaper thats all I know. The 338-06 would be very close to ether the 338 fed or 338rcm. Ballistics data bears this out. The 300-grain load has long since faded, being only available from the boutique ammo companies. Put another way, I’d much rather put two boxes of 300-grain .375 H&H ammo downrange in a single sitting, than I would two boxes of 250-grain .338 Winchester Magnum. The .338 WM is going to give you 80% of the performance of the Lapua at a quarter the price. Whether you're hunting deer, elk or black bear the .338 Federal is a solid choice. of energy at that distance. Ether cartidge can match or excede what the long mags can do out of a short barrel with less powder and muzzle blast. You just need to decide if what you are hunting will need a magnum caliber to bring it down. To this day, a pre-’64 Winchester Model 70 in .375 H&H remains among my ‘most-wanted’ rifles. I like the three-seven-five for its flexibility; for the big-game hunter, it truly is the most useful cartridge ever designed. by Philip Massaro - But the true beauty of the .338 Federal is you get near .338 Win. Looking for previous installments of our "Head to Head" series? The .375 Holland & Holland Magnum is the elder of the two cartridges, having been released by the prestigious British firm in 1912. Mag. > i am comfortable shooting 338 win mags at around 500 yards as of now i use my friends 338. The 338 Win Mag has been around for a while and has a variety of ammo available. Mag. Nosler Partition. Mag., making for a highly useful cartridge. For example, the 200-grain Vital-Shok Trophy Bonded Tip .338 Federal packs a punishing 1,891 foot-pounds of punch at 300 yards, yielding an only slightly lighter sting than the 2,213 foot-pounds delivered by a 210-grain .338 Win. Please enter a password for your user account. After scoring high marks from critics and drawing legions of loyal fans since its debut in 2006, the .338 Federal continues to gain widespread favor among big-game hunters. I used the same type of bullet for each rifle; it's impossible to use the same grain/BC. performance out to 400 yards, without the recoil of magnum rounds. Well, here in North America it’s pretty much a dead heat, as the .338 Winchester Magnum and its 250-grain bullets can effectively handle all of our game animals, including the great bears, and the .375 H&H Magnum—with the lighter premium bullets like the 235-grain Cutting Edge Raptor—can handle the lighter game species better than you’d think, and handles the big guys with no issue. Considering the selection of cartridges that will handle the larger North American mammals, two have most certainly risen to the top, and yet there are many who fervently choose one over the other. At 300 yards the 200-grain .338 Federal TBT and 180-grain .308 Win. But there is a wonderful selection of bullets available today, including the 250-grain bullets that maximize the potential of the case. A Bonnier Corporation Company. Send a private message to backlashingcooger, Send a private message to duckdaysofwinter, The following errors occurred with your submission. On the flip side, the .338 Federal produces just 23.9 foot-pounds of recoil, compared to 36.1 for the Win. .338 Federal based on the .308 winchester is not in the same class as the other two. This cartridge has garnered a reputation for deep penetration, yet a recoil level that most shooters can handle with practice. And despite the .338 RCM's impressive numbers, the .338 Federal is no slouch. What Gun Would You Use to Hunt a Werewolf? Winchester took their .458 Winchester Magnum case—itself a shortened and blown out .375 H&H case—and necked it to hold the .338″ diameter bullets the company used for its rimmed .33 Winchester. I have shot both rather extensively, working up handload recipes for both, and have hunted with the .375 H&H quite a bit. I had one for Alaska, and it shot okay but for all that recoil, it just wasn't worth it. Let’s take a more detailed look into these two classic cartridges. I mean this dude kicks harder than a 460 weatherby, a 416 rigby, a 375 h&h. First, it meets the caliber minimum for hunting dangerous game enforced by a number of African countries. Most of the larger .30s can use the 220-grain slugs, and aren’t too awful far behind the .338 Winchester, where the .375 H&H picks up with the 230- and 235-grain bullets, and extends up to the 300s and 350s. One short to medium range (Fed.) Elephant in both Africa and India, all the large cats, buffalo on any continent, any color of bear; all were neatly handled by the .375 H&H. The admittedly light 235s were launched at 2800 fps, but the bullet construction a century ago isn’t what it is today. The Air Force’s Suppressed M9 Pistol from the ‘80s. We've got you covered.• .30-30 Winchester vs. .35 Remington• .257 Roberts vs. .250-3000 Savage• .270 Winchester vs. .280 Remington• .35 Whelen vs. 9.3x62mm Mauser• .416 Rigby vs. .416 Remington Magnum• .308 Winchester vs. .30-06 Springfield• .22 Nosler vs. .224 Valkyrie• .300 Win. Get the American Hunter Insider newsletter for at-a-glance access to industry news, gear, gun reviews, videos and more—delivered directly to your Inbox. Please enter a valid email address for yourself. The .338 Winchester Magnum is one of four cartridges developed by Winchester that are based on the shortened .375 H&H belted case. Copyright © 2020 Range 365. Built on the .308 case and “necked-up” to hold a .338-diameter bullet, the load offers hunters a faster muzzle velocity than traditional favorites like the .308 Win., with a heavier bullet to boot. In order to be able to post messages on the 2CoolFishing forums, you must first register. Mag., making for a highly useful cartridge. It has its roots in the series of OKH cartridges developed by Charlie O’Neil, Elmer Keith and Don Hopkins. Federal stated that this was a non-magnum cartridge boasting magnum energy, a big game caliber offering tolerable recoil in lightweight rifles. Mag. Leaving the muzzle at 2650 fps, it has a good trajectory and plenty of striking power for almost all game species, save the African heavies. of energy at the muzzle, and yet maintain a respectable trajectory. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. In spite of requiring a longer action, I feel the .375 H&H Magnum mates up with a 7mm or .30 caliber rifle a bit better than does the .338 Winchester Magnum. Mag. Plus, the .338 Federal zips along at 2,064 feet per second at 300 yards, virtually tailgating the magnum cartridge, which clocks a cruising speed of 2,180. Its popularity didn’t actually gain its full head of steam until after WWI ended—and hunters began to head abroad again—and was only bolstered when American ammunition and firearms companies began to offer the cartridge. There are no flies on the .338 Winchester Magnum—I wouldn’t hesitate to use one for any appropriate game animal—but I find that a hunter with a good .375 H&H Magnum is fully prepared for any hunt he or she could imagine. Maybe the 338 RCM or the 338 Federal would be a better cartidge. Go to the Federal ammo website to check out ballistics between the two. I use a 300 win mag as of now, i've shot the 338 win mags, the recoil isn't a big deal at all. While the .30-06 Springfield proved early on that it was perhaps the definitive hunting cartridge for nearly all North American game, there are species here, and around the globe, that require a bit more than what the .30-06 has to offer.

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