russian olive firewood btu
anyone have any experience burning mulberry? Really enjoy the contributions. Russian olive is commonly found growing along floodplains, riverbanks, stream courses, marshes, and irrigation ditches in the West at elevations from 4500 to 6000 feet. If you leave oak in the woods til you need it, well, theres lots of bugs and stuff that love to digest it. Great aroma too. Anyone know how this rates as firewood? I live on the east coast (midatlantic area) and we have a lot of Mimosa trees. Got some firewood out of because it's the first thing I got rid of at his house when he passed, it but it got mixed in so I have no idea how it burns. im in lebanon,pa area. But since then, they have spread wildly due to their deep, re-sprouting roots. Some would argue that its even impossible without a hydraulic splitter. We collect it as down and dead firewood when we are cutting western juniper (J.occidentalis), mostly on B.L.M. The only problems with it are that it throws a ton of sparks and is not good for a fireplace for that reason and when cured it is harder than a hub to hell and next to imposible to split by hand. It is a hardwood that can produce a lot of heat for a long time. I noticed a lack of information on Hickory. I thought the same. Do these stoves not have dampers? If youve decided to fell a tree, you may wonder if the Russian olive firewood is good to burn. Thanks to the high BTU that Russian olive firewood produces and its long-lasting heat, Russian olive is an effective choice of wood to use in your fireplace. Contains some non native species that can be found in the West. Im new to burning wood in an open fireplace. If it is really dry it gives off some heat, but I usually recommend it as a campfire wood. Old growth Western Red Cedar,while it makes for the very best kindling,will burn TOO hot and damage a wood stove or insert!!!! For campfires, olive makes an excellent choice. The cons are , no coal bed in the morning and it burns down a bit faster than the ash but it puts out real good heat. They are the main nuisance tree in our area.possibly the main tree. I am planning on doing a little experiment to find out which wood is best for campfires and fire pits. It will burn longer than softwoods and will be just as effective as hardwoods. must be mangable FYI, this insert has glass doors and a chain-link curtain inside them. #101 Olive wood burl slab Island board charcuterie resin tray 200 yr old Rawcut. Russian olive does produce a lot of heat. Russian olive does produce a lot of heat. The apple is a good secret that most wood burners never thought of . Take care when cutting them and work with a partner. It has kept us plenty warm every winter, we ensure we have a chimney sweep come out and check the wood stove and chimney once a year. So, are Russian olives worth the trouble? It does make a nice fire so maybe they should call it Good Fir Fire. Long story short, am I wasting my time with that willow? This means that the wood has had no time to dry out. The one that puts on what is called hedge apples, eaten by squirrels. 10. Not good for firewood but great for woodworking. Wisconsin. Any wisdom out there? Using Russian olive trees as firewood is a good way to consume unwanted trees, with a few caveats. correlates closely with relative weight (and deciduous. Russian olive or Elaeagnus Angustifolia is viewed as an invasive species. The live oaks did just fine since they have such small leaves (unless they got in the way of a falling black oak). Coals produced by firewood impact how long it will burn before needing more wood added. Western Hardwoods Figures from California Energy Commission BTU Rating Based on 90 cubic feet of solid wood per 128 cubic foot cord Anyone who thinks its crappy has either failed to keep it dry, not split it small enough or burned it green. I burn about 12 cords a year using a wood boiler heating house and shop. The bradford pear burned fast with a mid size flame . Cedar doesnt heat well for us, and throws a lot of creosote up the chimney, so we only use it for outside campfires. In comparison, Russian olive burns at 23 BTU. I want to leave it as natural as possible. The Russian olive removal sites offered up the perfect solution. What wood would you say it is similar to on the b.t.u. Can I Only Use Seasoned Firewood For Burning? I have burned them in that past and would like to know if anyone knew the BTU value of these trees? So there is no net Co2 that goes into the atmosphere. does anyone know wht the heat value of tulep poplar is, I just cut down I believe it is sumac? But it does burn off a substantial amount of ash. Russian olive wood produces an unpleasant odor when green. Are they actually different species? So you are probably not going to find much information about it as far as btu or about its wood in general since it is not a common source of firewood outside of Asia. Makes a mean pizza and can sear steak like nobodys business. We provide super-helpful axe advice that's ad-free. The issue is that Russian olive is hard to buy as firewood and difficult to process in large quantities as opposed to hackberry for example. If the Russian olive woods content is still too high after a year, give it a few more months to season. Use a combination of woods instead. I cant tell the actual temp because it made the temp gauge go past the max 600 degree mark then go back around to the 200 degree mark . In Iowa we mix our loads in the stove out of boredom. They died. All the old timers around only burn oak and turn their nose up at fir. The dense, deeply creviced bark makes a perfect hideout for spiders and insects. Here in MD was 39 today with 20mph wind. One BTU is the heat required to increase the temperature of one pound of water by one degree Fahrenheit. We also leave the basement door partially open so as not to encourage the water pipes to freeze. Unlike tulip poplar firewood which releases few coals and has a short burning period. They usually are 3-4 around (like I said, they grow quickly!) Both put out considerably more heat than anything we have in Alaska and when its -30 outside you can use all the BTUs you can get. First is IronWood. (red) just now brought back a load of beech. Mix some ash firewood in with your Russian olive and you will get a good heat source burning quickly. You know the one, thorny, ugly and wild and grows like a weed. You best be looking over your shoulder as you drive home with your coal! They are invasive and grow very quickly. While this sounds simple, its essential to get it right. Coals are to fire as fuel, to keep it going and provide lasting heat. Some states have made the sale of Russian olive trees illegal, to prevent their spreading. Like other fruit trees, this firewood gives off a mild, sweet scent that many enjoy. Happiness is a full woodbox on Friday night! Make a horizontal cut with your chainsaw through the opposite side of the tree 1 to 2 inches above the original cuts. Fascinating site! Ive also heard this about black locust, which I also burn. Hemlock that is stacked in a single stack with plenty of air and sun can be ready to burn in one summer. I was around the wood many years ago and remembered that it smelled bad. By assessing the fire characteristics of Russian olive firewood, it will be easier to identify which scenarios and settings the firewood is best suited for. Walnut and Mulberry,having quite a plentiful supply of those. Also, box elm burns decent but it stinks. The best-known firewoods are white and red oak trees. A cord is 128 cubic feet but in any stack of wood there will be air space between the pieces. i have access to some and im wondering if its worth my time to get it. I live in Wisconsin now and have never seen one up here. When you grow a tree, you take carbon out of the atmospere. If some of the wood is used for construction, there is a net decrease in CO2 from the activity. We do have one wood burning fire place, and when the big ice storm hit February 2021, knocking out our power for a week, we used that fire place for heat. I live in the White Mountains of Arizona. Or, if the wood is worth your effort. Here is a site for California wood ratings http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/home/heating_cooling/firewood.html Surprisingly, I found almond and eucalypt rated close to the same. I have old growth straight grain cedar I cut in the early 90s for kindling and its still as good as the day I cut it. just came from the woods. Thanks for the listings.I burn 3-4 cords every Winter,and burn all but the softwoods.I was looking for BTU content for Would I still be allergic to it or was that just to its pollen? But unlike other woods like birch, Russian olive catches fire very slowly. There is of course no obligation, but if youd like to give back and ensure that the project continues to grow, consider supporting me on Patreon. This can freeze in extended cold and cause the tree to come down without warning it combined with wind. I have alot of leelan cypress trees that like to debrach themselves. I have 4 cords plus over 100 more Russian Olive trees to cut for firewood. Unseasoned wood smells unpleasant as it burns. Anyone that enjoys cooking with fire should check out these top types of wood for cooking. The drawbacks are the stinky smoke and the fact I had to poke it every 10 min and its hard to split. The latter is superabundant here, but is the devil itself to split. Mulga roots are about the only thing hotter/longer/denser. I burned some buckthorn in 1.5 to 4 diameter unsplit and that stuff burns HOT in our wood stove; it stinks and its not the easiest to start. With an abundance of Apple orchards in the area, Apple wood is also readily available. Wood needs to typically produce healthy goals to allow the fire to stay hot and restart in the morning. Some do well, others not so well Any info on Sassafras? anyone know anything about sweet gum btu value? Here in South Central Alaska, all we have is Birch, Black Spruce and Cottonwood. Superb device . The density of Russian olive means that it can burn slower without losing heat. I note that quaking aspen is rated higher than aspen in your West chart. Red Oak requires a bit of time to season, but burns well after 2 years. Elm is easy to find around here . Every year we have to cut several down. Live in S/W Missouri, and wood heat is our only source for 3,400 sq. I added the BTU of Eucalyptus to the charts but I cant find consistent data for avocado and almond. The National Fire Protection Association suggests that you hire a chimney cleaner to remove creosote build-up at least once a year. Uncured wood is also inefficient as the fire wastes energy, evaporating moisture instead of heating the room. i think its red pine or red elm.. i live in central nm in the foothills of the rocky mtns,our primary firewood is shaggy bark juniper..we just call it scrub cedar..and there are several distinct kinds,yellow-grows extremely slow burns verry hot,red-softer burns up faster-aligator bark juniper-the softest of the 3 less btuthen we have pinyoni dont burn this wood because it plugs my heat exchange unit up..dosent put out much heat and smokes like crazy..then there is scrub oakit burns about the same as any kind of oak..pine and fir..blue spruce..no heat..chineese elm..hard to split little more heat than red scrub cedar..not much..so as far as firewood goes i would give the shaggy bark juniper the highest rating..i also have a house by lake texoma in tx right in the middle of an emense hardwood forest..oak..hickory..maple..american elm..birch..ect..ect..and when im there i burn mostly yellow oak..and hickory,but i like the juniper from nm much better..i dont think the btu rating this chart has for it is correct..im sure its not, i saw a coment on salt cedar above,what you are burning is juniper..or scrub cedar,salt cedar is a completely diferent kind of wood altogether..it grows along the riverbanks of nm and arizona..and i think its scrub syacamore..sorry about the spelling..but it is a verry hard wood..not sure of its btu rating..but i would still rather burn the scrub cedar..or juniper as they call it..salt cedar grows close to water,along with chineese elm and cottonwood in the lower elivations of the two states it does burn quite hot though..im prety sure its a kind of syacamore..close to the btu russian olive would produce..also fine wood for burning, im fron centeral missouri and our elm american or red will not burn in fact it is called p*** elm for reason. It gets super hot and leaves a hot bed of coals. Coals are to fire as fuel, to keep it going and provide lasting heat. Ash is the only wood Ive ever been able to burn streight off the tree (dried for 1 week or less) everything else I try to let dry for at least 5 years. We just called them hedge trees. I live in eastern oregon and my main problem is the identification of trees. Being a transplant from So. We have tons of felling oak trees pushed up waiting to be cut , fully seasoned too !!! I have 4 of them that I want to cut down. I live in southwest MI and have 20 acres of woods. Have also taken large quantities of red oak (everyones favorite) and red maple (the poor mans oak), and smaller amounts of cherry (nice smell), beech (hot stuff), yellow birch (great smell), white oak, and sweetgum. Green Vs. Dry Wood - Firewood should be dried (seasoned) to 10% to 20% moisture content for best burning performance. In central MN (east Metro) that stuff is thick and burning the roots gives green-brown smoke. The ones in the western hardwoods chart are for the west coast varieties. I first came here and posted in 2010 . Burning well-seasoned poplar and maple, with a couple sticks of red oak. Another potentially invasive plant with probably similar BTUs/burn value is it's cousin: Autumn Olive. The inside resembles red or white oak color & grain. I havent been able to compare it to madrone, or the oaks (like Oregon white, black oak, etc.). Light it then put the wet wood on top and watch the water and steam spew out of the ends . Ive heard that burning a little cedar occasionally will help remove soot from stovepipes and chimneys. A few of which are Wild Olive or Silver Berry. Here in suburban MD (1/2 way between DC and Balt. BTUs or British Thermal Units are a measure of the amount of heat energy available in any given substance. Members volunteered about 40 hours of time to collect wood, move it to the staging location, and stack it. Chopped up a few live oaks and boy that is a great wood for the fireplace! The tight grained old growth Douglas Fir is as about as good as it gets.Put two big blocks on Your fire at night,button it down good,and when You open it in the morning Youll find a big,beautiful bed of coalsbut stand back,because when the air hits it,it will ignite big time!!! Creosote is a tar-like black substance deposited inside chimneys as the fire burns. But, as long as it burns and it sounds like it beats cottonwood and pine. I am presently making a box from Russian olive. THE MAN MENTIONED CEDAR GAVE OFF LITTLE TO NO HEAT. The wood will not keep very well even on a rack I have had it rot out. We have many native hardwoods here but this is the best, cleanest stuff Ive found. I live on the west slope too and have found that oak, even when protected, doesnt keep that well, unlike cedar, pine, fir, or lodgepole. Be sure to let it season before burning to know how it should truly burn .Funny Story, I had a friend that cut a storm fallen red oak . It doesnt seem to put out much ash, but does put out some real heat. I live in East Tennessee which has a great variety of hardwoods. as far as mulberry goes..i live in central nm and at some point in time someone started planting non bearing mulberry trees..the btu output is not even close to what the charts state above..our mulberry trees would be similar to burning elm wood..it grows verry fast and requires a lot of water..we dont even use it for cooking wood..of course most native wood in nm is verry hard because it takes hundreds of yrs to growthe growth rings are so small in some cases it takes a microscope to see them..some of the juniper trees we cut for firewood ive been told were around during the time of christ..so it naturaly is going to be extremely hard wood..ive been looking for the btu output for algarita..or desert holly..where i cut my firewood its not uncommon to find these trees from 5inches to two feet around..it takes at least a yr to season..ive seen gunstocks and stair rails made from itprety woodanyone know?? One cord is a stack with dimensions 4'x4'x8 or 128 cubic feet. Out here in the West we dont have all the great hardwoods that you have there in your part of the country. Happy burning C. I have 30 acres in northwest Missouri. Douglas fir is Pseudotsuga, menzizii for the man who identified it. I had some mostly seasoned red oak , shagbark hickory , and black locust. Very hard to split, but more importantly it doesnt burn well at all. We live in the foothills of North Carolina and heat with a Big Buck wood stove. Though seasoning the wood for long enough will eventually make the smell dissipate. Burn really hot. Is Modesto Ash a soft or hard wood? (This is a monthly update, and your email will be kept private. Toss in a large log; itll give off heat for much longer than options like pine. Some fully seasoned apple,beech and american elm and some partially seasoned pecan and bradford pear . Hi! BTU rating of russian olive stihltheone Nov 23, 2009 Active since 1995, Hearth.com is THE place on the internet for free information and advice about wood stoves, pellet stoves and other energy saving equipment. Just look for a barkless dead tree in a fence row . I love this site. I am planting some of the Eastern varieties out here that we had in PA. Any idea if this is a hardwood and the BTUs? It has a large flame and is clean burning with very little ash and is easy to light. If you can, sell it and save the $$$ to buy fresh 1 yr old wood later on from someone else. It will dry out for a season and then be split and distributed in 2018 or 2019. Much like poplar firewood varieties, the wood from the Russian olive in most cases is easy to split. I have a Russian Olive that I cut down about 4 months ago and has been sitting in 100F weather for three weeks. I do have a questiondo they test the btu factor at sea level or in an elevation, i have found that many of the old myths to be untrue as far as burn time and heat factor, ash rate in many different varieties of wood in elevation above 2500 to 5000, been doing this for awhile, just wondering if anyone else has found this to be true? That means youll need a powerful maul or hydraulic splitter. Spruce and Birch both probably have about the same BTU rating, however I have found that Birch burns cleaner. I have the square footage of space in the house but what zone do i need so I can purchase the right sized wood stove? When dry, Russian olive will give off very little smoke, making it a good choice as an indoor fire source. Because of the air space between the pieces of wood, the amount of solid wood in a cord may be only 70-90 cubic feet, even though the volume of the stack is 128 cubic feet. As the chainsaw reaches the middle of the tree, the tree will begin to fall due to the hinge you originally cut. Its the worst wood Ive ever encountered. Mostly ash, cherry, shagbark hickory, maple and beech. I think you have inspired me to do a test some day of oak vs madrone in a camp fire. We repainted the Jotul with 1200 degree rated stove paint and a lot of it has burned offso we know the Jotul gets hot, just not how hot. Step 2 Lay small pieces of Russian olive wood in the fireplace with other types of wood. Split horribly and had a bad odor and only arround 15.5 BTU/ cord. We normally burn red oak in the fireplace. Audrie The wood you are looking for is Black Locust.It is a little thorny but it grows fast and burns long and hot.I sold fire wood for ten years and burned it fo thirty.Black locust was a favorite of my Amish customers. Due to being more shrub-like than other trees, Russian olive trees have very little sap. 3) Cottonwood is actually one of the poplars (Populus deltoides) and is rated quite a bit higher in the West (16.8) than the East (13.5). Seasoned olive burns clean and leaves minimal creosote. The wood is not easy to turn but looks great if you stick with it. Many people despise Russian olive trees as they make it difficult for other trees to thrive. Yet it will not burn, just smoke. White and red oak burn well. The firewood BTU rating charts below give a comparison between different firewood types. Around here it is about the most common tree taken down by tree services, so lots of firewood guys sell it because they get the wood dropped off in their yards for free. I have burned about every tree that grows in this county (except cottonwood and willow, which is about worthless), and the best, by far, is Osage Orange. This is a tree that I will avoid even if it is free! Split each log into two to four pieces, depending on the log size. Your data on them show similar figures, and, I would confirm them to be very heavy, hot burning fuels. One perk of Russian olive: it burns hot. I've never seen birds eating the berries. Its BTU is just as high as birch which varieties produce a BTU of 23.8 million per cord and higher than douglas fir, which has a BTU of 20,7. Non resinous wood has around 8000 to 8500 BTU per pound, resinous wood has around 8600 to 9700 BTU per pound. It was cut 4 month prior to burning in the winter . As far as a tree to keep in your yard, no good. However, keep in mind that ashes should have cooled for several days, and its easiest to do it during winter snows or before a rain. Thanks to the high BTU that Russian olive firewood produces and its long-lasting heat, Russian olive is an effective choice of wood to use in your fireplace. Invest in a moisture meter to know when your firewood has seasoned for long enough. Has anyone heard of this problem? Once it is dried and sealed, I love it. growth mindset activities for high school pdf BTU Values of Wood Species Wood species type BTU values of a cord burning wood in a wood stove As you can see from the chart below, the famed red oak is not the highest on the list. Some wood gives off a lot of sparks in the fireplace. Bow Woods (from a mathematical perspective), Four Common Finishing Mistakes (and how to avoid them). Stay warm and dont worry about it so much. Speed up the drying time further by following these tips: Olive firewood rounds have a yellowish brown or cream heartwood that tends to deepen in color with age. but it is still the least discovered hardwood/cooking wood around except where they have the Orchards. Your chart shows the two very close in heat output and weight. I dont bother with cottonwood as a fuel source. Consistency between charts will vary due to different variables between different data sources. I found a big beech limb fully seasoned and cut it up for a try . Re Bradford Pear, we had one in our front yard that lasted about 15 yrs., then went the way of many: split in a storm. For me and my outdoor boiler, I prefer the junk wood like aspen and spruce. As others have commented the wood does have a very strong odor when working it either green or dry(4 months from felling, slabbed to roughly 2x8x24 and dried for 6 months, milled to final size(1-3/4x6x24) and glued planks dried for 3 months) its a very herby/oily (like a potent salad dressing) smell that lingers even after washing. These firewood BTU charts compare the heat energy ratings and weight of common firewood species. Which aspen is rated equally in your West and East charts? Kaleidoscope, Mini, Russian Olive Wood, Artisan Handcrafted, Gift for all Ages, Christmas, Graduation, Birthday, Men, Women (520) Ad vertisement by wrightmade. In the wild, Russian olive trees have been known to smell very sweet and strong. Enjoy your fires! Like several posters have commented, a big chunk of fir will last for 5-6 hours in the wood stove, and makes for an easy re-start in the morning. When we are burning both stoves say in January, then Im just a wood-slave the whole day long. We have tons of the best hard woods in this country . Well here it is getting to be winter in upstate NY again and the little woodstove in our basement has been running since September or so. Olive wood is a mixed bag when its time to start splitting. Although the project is nearing its end, MSI is currently pursuing funding and looking to develop more partnerships in order to continue the work. Seasoning time is reduced if the tree has been dead for months. I was just cutting some live oak in California last week so I do know it is there.